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Alyncia: Whats with the drama?

4:53 

GoldenGail3: Yea, please do so (happy)

  Well Sev is being bullied by Lissy and is going to be banned by her.. 
  and i don't the rest. 
  know* 
4:54 

Dmullins677: Lets not rely on absolutes, Gail.

4:54 

Alyncia: Liss bully? Wow, shes a good friend of mine but I did notice some messages on his talk page, rude ones yesterday.

  Sev's talk pages 
4:54 

GoldenGail3: D does, i don't really know..

4:55 

Alyncia: Oh.

4:56 

GoldenGail3: I guess Sev talked rudely about Lissy here...

4:56 

Dmullins677: Test

4:56 

GoldenGail3: she talked to me about it...

  well, PM... 
  She doesn't like Lissy.... 
  PMed me about it... 
4:57 

Alyncia: Oh, i read Sevs profile on DARP

4:57 

GoldenGail3: I know....

4:57 

Alyncia: Terrible

4:57 

GoldenGail3: Its terrifying.... and really bad...

  I don't like it. 
4:58 

Alyncia: Mean either.

  We need to add more rules to this wiki. 
4:58 

GoldenGail3: and it's really rude too....

4:58 

Alyncia: Exactly

4:58 

GoldenGail3: and I agree with you Aly.

4:58 

Dmullins677:

\
4:59 

Alyncia: No one is allowed to make fun of anyone not even in PM its just rude.

4:59 

GoldenGail3: She said she hated Lissy to me in PM mode...

  and I AGREE 100% with you Aly. 
4:59 

Alyncia: I think we need to add a rule like that.

  And thanks :)  
4:59 

GoldenGail3: i do too.

5:00 

Alyncia: Do you agree Mullins?

  There should be a chatban or a kick if anyone is caught doing it. 
5:00 

Dmullins677: I don't know yet.

5:01 

GoldenGail3: Sev is not helping her case with that page...

5:01 

Dmullins677: And what justifies rudeness on chat?

5:01 

Alyncia: Yeah, its just making her seem immature and chillike

  *childlike 
5:01 

Dmullins677: Such a broad rule for a ban/kick...

5:02 

Alyncia: Being rude to any user.

5:02 

GoldenGail3: In general...

  and in PM.. 
5:02 

Alyncia: Yeah.

5:03 

Dmullins677: Okay so define rude.

5:03 

GoldenGail3: General bullying...

5:03 

Dmullins677: What if I said "I hate you Aly"

  Would you kick me for that. 
5:03 

GoldenGail3: No...

5:04 

Dmullins677: "I hate you GG?" That?

5:04 

GoldenGail3: i mean, like death threats and stuff...

5:04 

Dmullins677: Threats are already a rule..

5:04 

GoldenGail3: Ciber bullying?

  Cyber* 
5:04 

Alyncia: If saying I hate you more then once then you should be kicked

5:05 

Dmullins677: So if I said I hate you 3 times to GG, I would be kicked?

5:05 

GoldenGail3: Yea, and gossiping about a different user then yourself, in a bad way should be one...

5:06 

Alyncia: Yes, like GG said and yeah my point mullins

5:06 

Dmullins677: So what if I told you "I think Soph hates aly"

  I should be kicked? 

~ GoldenGail3 has left the chat. ~

5:08 

Alyncia: No like gossiping rudely about someone ~ GoldenGail3 has joined the chat. ~

5:09 

GoldenGail3: and name-calling should be one,

5:09 

Alyncia: Yes unless it is already a rule

  Brb 
5:10 

Dmullins677: Okay so give me an example

5:11 

GoldenGail3: Like.... "Idiot" could be a example...

  or swearing... 
  ... 
5:11 

Dmullins677: Gail is a damn idiot

  That? 
  Test  
5:14 

GoldenGail3: yea.

  defentely that. 
5:15 

Dmullins677: How many times?

5:15 

GoldenGail3: and rudeness to Adims...

5:15 

Dmullins677: Adims?

5:15 

GoldenGail3: RBs, Beacrats, the team.

5:16 

Dmullins677:

  • Admins
5:16 

GoldenGail3: yea.

5:17 

Dmullins677: Define rudeness to admins then...

  "I disagree" 
  "I hate you" 
  "You're stupid" 
  Which of those apply? 
5:17 

GoldenGail3: your stupid is one.

5:18 

Dmullins677: I hate you?

5:18 

GoldenGail3: and i hate you is one/

5:18 

Dmullins677: Okay, so why is it so important to have rules against being rude to admins?

5:18 

Alyncia: Back

5:19 

GoldenGail3: Because, it's for all user to be treated right.

5:19 

Alyncia: Yep, and make none discouraged

5:19 

Dmullins677: But you said "admins"...

  So if I discourage GG, I should be kicked? 
5:20 

Alyncia: Yeah but we cant kick you because your a chat mod

5:20 

Dmullins677: Well lets pretend I'm not, of course.

5:21 

Alyncia: Kay, then yes it would result in a kick

5:21 

GoldenGail3: D can kick me though...

5:22 

Alyncia: Yeah. Because you don't have B-Crat rights

5:22 

Dmullins677: Well what classifies discouragement when it comes to kicking and banning? ~ You cannot kick another Chat Moderator. ~

5:23 

GoldenGail3: Rudness, bullying, conflcts between users, cyber bullying.

5:24 

Alyncia: Yep

5:24 

Dmullins677: I don't find rudeness to have anything to do with discouragement.

  And I don't think that users that have a conflict should be kicked. 
5:25 

GoldenGail3: unless it's a shouting fight.

  and they're being rude to us. 
5:25 

Dmullins677: I think they should work out their problems so it doesn't affect the wiki any longer

5:25 

GoldenGail3: kk

  What if it comes to you, being the founder of this wiki. 
5:25 

Alyncia: Good idea.

5:25 

Dmullins677: So they can be rude to the other user but when they are rude to us it becomes wrong?

5:26 

GoldenGail3: no, i mean to all user.

  users* 
5:26 

Alyncia: First they should receive a warning.

5:26 

Dmullins677: What is this warning?

  To? 
  Stop? 
5:26 

Alyncia: Yeah depends on what the problem is

5:27 

Dmullins677: To work out problems before administration gets involved?

5:27 

Alyncia: Yeah, that's why we need to warn them

5:27 

Dmullins677: Or should administration already be involved?

5:27 

Alyncia: Let them try to work it out a

  first  
  *at 
5:28 

Dmullins677: Thenz/

  Then? 
  What happens if the problem isn't resolved? 
5:28 

GoldenGail3: What if the user is being uncorpated with the assistance of us?

  uncooperative*  
5:30 

Alyncia: Then they are banned from chat

5:30 

Dmullins677: That is a very good question and that surely has some importance to the rule.

5:30 

Alyncia: Yeah.

5:31 

Dmullins677: What kind of ban?

5:31 

GoldenGail3: Even is we ban the user, the user constants being a nuisances?

  Form chat i mean... 
5:32 

Dmullins677: How?

  Talk pages? 
5:32 

Alyncia: Then we would ban them from the wiki

5:33 

GoldenGail3: Yea, they'd have to banned...

  but for how long? 
5:33 

Dmullins677: Okay but we are lacking preciseness...

5:33 

Alyncia: Perhaps a month, it depends on how extreme the thing is that they did.

5:33 

Dmullins677: What counts as a nuisance?

5:34 

GoldenGail3: Spamming..

5:34 

Dmullins677: Soph spams me all the time..

5:34 

GoldenGail3: I mean, like deletes pages spamming.

5:34 

Dmullins677: And I consider it a nuisance

  Ohh 
5:35 

GoldenGail3: And what of Sock puppeting, is that a rule yet?

5:35 

Alyncia: Vandilism on pages too

5:35 

Dmullins677: Well that is vandalism.

5:36 

Alyncia: Yeah.

5:36 

Dmullins677: I find sock puppeting to be such a...

5:36 

GoldenGail3: idiot thing>

  or just stupid... 
  I consider it stupid.. 
5:37 

Dmullins677: Idiotic, pathetic, and stupid

  I agree. 
5:37 

Alyncia: Yep.

5:37 

Dmullins677: But it is to broad

  I think users don't understand it sometimes 
  Test  
5:39 

GoldenGail3: Why don't they understand it?

5:39 

Alyncia: Oh

5:40 

GoldenGail3: It's socking! It's banning both of they're accounts, it's.... it's simple1

5:40 

Dmullins677: Oh, and I think that if they are kicked a certain day, they should not be allowed to continuously come back to chat. I think that admins on chat should kick them if they are found in chat for the rest if that day.

  No, GG. 
5:41 

GoldenGail3: kk

5:41 

Alyncia: Yeah good idea

5:41 

Dmullins677: That is only one part of it, but when it comes to Role-playing wiki's like these...

5:41 

GoldenGail3: Good idea.

  Liky Aly said. 
  like* 
5:41 

Dmullins677: We have to consider users using other peoples templates, etch.

  *etch. 
  :|  
  *etc.  
5:42 

Alyncia: Yeah

5:42 

Dmullins677: And that is included in Sock puppeting

5:43 

Alyncia: Okay

5:43 

GoldenGail3: We should make a meeting thing on the chat button...

5:43 

Dmullins677: I agree.

  And I am going to post this as a public wiki admin meeting 
5:43 

GoldenGail3:

kk 
5:44 

Dmullins677: Since we have accomplished a lot ;)

5:44 

Alyncia: Okay

5:44 

Dmullins677: But lets not stop now, what else do we have to discuss

5:44 

Alyncia: yeah

5:44 

GoldenGail3: Uh, destroying someone's user page?

5:44 

Dmullins677: Aly, you are free to add the necessary rules to policies page.

5:45 

GoldenGail3: is that one?

  that could get someone banned.. 
5:46 

Dmullins677: That's simple vandalism

  Which is already addressed on the policies. 
  And it is easily fixed. 
5:47 

GoldenGail3: fixable*

  and yea it is. 
  i don't think we have anything more to discuss... 
5:47 

Dmullins677: ...

  Anything Aly? 
5:49 

GoldenGail3: I think Sev broke a rule...

5:50 

Alyncia: sorry I was afk

5:51 

GoldenGail3: Talking about a different user in PM, that's a rule and she broke it...

5:51 

Dmullins677: That's s rule>

  *? 
  Onz/ 
5:51 

GoldenGail3: Or a policy...

5:51 

Dmullins677:

  • on?
5:51 

GoldenGail3: I am going to be a nazi to you D...

5:51 

Alyncia: Yeah

5:52 

GoldenGail3: I think we should give her a warning at least.

5:52 

Dmullins677: I don't remember that being a rule on this chat?

  *wiki 
5:52 

Alyncia: ex post facto

5:52 

GoldenGail3: or something on a policy...

  it's something on a policy. 
5:52 

Alyncia: we won't blame her because it wasn't a rule before

5:52 

GoldenGail3: kk

  but just pointing it out... 
5:53 

Alyncia: That's okay

5:53 

Dmullins677: Is it a rule now?

5:54 

GoldenGail3: yea, it is.

5:54 

Dmullins677: When was that agreed upon?

5:54 

GoldenGail3: I remember correctly yea.

5:54 

Alyncia: Yeah.

5:55 

Dmullins677: I thought I said I didn't agree with that one.

5:55 

Alyncia: Oh well then

  I don't care what happens its not my decision 
5:56 

Dmullins677: I just don't see any point in that one...

5:56 

Alyncia: Just decide on something.

5:57 

GoldenGail3: Gossiping in general,

5:58 

Dmullins677: But I don't see a point in that either.

  No Aly, I want your opinion. 
5:59 

Alyncia: Im kinda in the middle between agreeing and declining

5:59 

Dmullins677: What are your comments about it"

  Where do you agree and where do you disagree? 
6:00 

GoldenGail3: We could agree not to agree?

6:00 

Dmullins677:

P
6:00 

GoldenGail3: idk about it either.

6:00 

Dmullins677: But it doesn't get the job done.

6:00 

Alyncia: I can't really explain.

6:01 

Dmullins677: No?

6:02 

Alyncia: Huh?

Dmullins677: Hmm

6:05 

GoldenGail3: Are we done here?

6:06 

Alyncia: Not sure

6:06 

Dmullins677: Well you're OOC, do it is really your choice, Aly.

  *So 
  On the gossip ordeal. 
  And yes, unless there is anything else to discuss, then we are done here, 
6:08 

Alyncia: Okay.

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