Alyncia: Whats with the drama?
GoldenGail3: Yea, please do so (happy)
Well Sev is being bullied by Lissy and is going to be banned by her.. and i don't the rest. know* 4:54
Dmullins677: Lets not rely on absolutes, Gail.
Alyncia: Liss bully? Wow, shes a good friend of mine but I did notice some messages on his talk page, rude ones yesterday.
Sev's talk pages 4:54
GoldenGail3: D does, i don't really know..
GoldenGail3: I guess Sev talked rudely about Lissy here...
GoldenGail3: she talked to me about it...
well, PM... She doesn't like Lissy.... PMed me about it... 4:57
Alyncia: Oh, i read Sevs profile on DARP
GoldenGail3: I know....
GoldenGail3: Its terrifying.... and really bad...
I don't like it. 4:58
Alyncia: Mean either.
We need to add more rules to this wiki. 4:58
GoldenGail3: and it's really rude too....
GoldenGail3: and I agree with you Aly.
Alyncia: No one is allowed to make fun of anyone not even in PM its just rude.
GoldenGail3: She said she hated Lissy to me in PM mode...
and I AGREE 100% with you Aly. 4:59
Alyncia: I think we need to add a rule like that.
And thanks :) 4:59
GoldenGail3: i do too.
Alyncia: Do you agree Mullins?
There should be a chatban or a kick if anyone is caught doing it. 5:00
Dmullins677: I don't know yet.
GoldenGail3: Sev is not helping her case with that page...
Dmullins677: And what justifies rudeness on chat?
Alyncia: Yeah, its just making her seem immature and chillike
Dmullins677: Such a broad rule for a ban/kick...
Alyncia: Being rude to any user.
GoldenGail3: In general...
and in PM.. 5:02
Dmullins677: Okay so define rude.
GoldenGail3: General bullying...
Dmullins677: What if I said "I hate you Aly"
Would you kick me for that. 5:03
Dmullins677: "I hate you GG?" That?
GoldenGail3: i mean, like death threats and stuff...
Dmullins677: Threats are already a rule..
GoldenGail3: Ciber bullying?
Alyncia: If saying I hate you more then once then you should be kicked
Dmullins677: So if I said I hate you 3 times to GG, I would be kicked?
GoldenGail3: Yea, and gossiping about a different user then yourself, in a bad way should be one...
Alyncia: Yes, like GG said and yeah my point mullins
Dmullins677: So what if I told you "I think Soph hates aly"
I should be kicked?
~ GoldenGail3 has left the chat. ~
Alyncia: No like gossiping rudely about someone ~ GoldenGail3 has joined the chat. ~
GoldenGail3: and name-calling should be one,
Alyncia: Yes unless it is already a rule
Dmullins677: Okay so give me an example
GoldenGail3: Like.... "Idiot" could be a example...
or swearing... ... 5:11
Dmullins677: Gail is a damn idiot
That? Test 5:14
defentely that. 5:15
Dmullins677: How many times?
GoldenGail3: and rudeness to Adims...
GoldenGail3: RBs, Beacrats, the team.
Dmullins677: Define rudeness to admins then...
"I disagree" "I hate you" "You're stupid" Which of those apply? 5:17
GoldenGail3: your stupid is one.
Dmullins677: I hate you?
GoldenGail3: and i hate you is one/
Dmullins677: Okay, so why is it so important to have rules against being rude to admins?
GoldenGail3: Because, it's for all user to be treated right.
Alyncia: Yep, and make none discouraged
Dmullins677: But you said "admins"...
So if I discourage GG, I should be kicked? 5:20
Alyncia: Yeah but we cant kick you because your a chat mod
Dmullins677: Well lets pretend I'm not, of course.
Alyncia: Kay, then yes it would result in a kick
GoldenGail3: D can kick me though...
Alyncia: Yeah. Because you don't have B-Crat rights
Dmullins677: Well what classifies discouragement when it comes to kicking and banning? ~ You cannot kick another Chat Moderator. ~
GoldenGail3: Rudness, bullying, conflcts between users, cyber bullying.
Dmullins677: I don't find rudeness to have anything to do with discouragement.
And I don't think that users that have a conflict should be kicked. 5:25
GoldenGail3: unless it's a shouting fight.
and they're being rude to us. 5:25
Dmullins677: I think they should work out their problems so it doesn't affect the wiki any longer
What if it comes to you, being the founder of this wiki. 5:25
Alyncia: Good idea.
Dmullins677: So they can be rude to the other user but when they are rude to us it becomes wrong?
GoldenGail3: no, i mean to all user.
Alyncia: First they should receive a warning.
Dmullins677: What is this warning?
To? Stop? 5:26
Alyncia: Yeah depends on what the problem is
Dmullins677: To work out problems before administration gets involved?
Alyncia: Yeah, that's why we need to warn them
Dmullins677: Or should administration already be involved?
Alyncia: Let them try to work it out a
first *at 5:28
Then? What happens if the problem isn't resolved? 5:28
GoldenGail3: What if the user is being uncorpated with the assistance of us?
Alyncia: Then they are banned from chat
Dmullins677: That is a very good question and that surely has some importance to the rule.
Dmullins677: What kind of ban?
GoldenGail3: Even is we ban the user, the user constants being a nuisances?
Form chat i mean... 5:32
Talk pages? 5:32
Alyncia: Then we would ban them from the wiki
GoldenGail3: Yea, they'd have to banned...
but for how long? 5:33
Dmullins677: Okay but we are lacking preciseness...
Alyncia: Perhaps a month, it depends on how extreme the thing is that they did.
Dmullins677: What counts as a nuisance?
Dmullins677: Soph spams me all the time..
GoldenGail3: I mean, like deletes pages spamming.
Dmullins677: And I consider it a nuisance
GoldenGail3: And what of Sock puppeting, is that a rule yet?
Alyncia: Vandilism on pages too
Dmullins677: Well that is vandalism.
Dmullins677: I find sock puppeting to be such a...
GoldenGail3: idiot thing>
or just stupid... I consider it stupid.. 5:37
Dmullins677: Idiotic, pathetic, and stupid
I agree. 5:37
Dmullins677: But it is to broad
I think users don't understand it sometimes Test 5:39
GoldenGail3: Why don't they understand it?
GoldenGail3: It's socking! It's banning both of they're accounts, it's.... it's simple1
Dmullins677: Oh, and I think that if they are kicked a certain day, they should not be allowed to continuously come back to chat. I think that admins on chat should kick them if they are found in chat for the rest if that day.
No, GG. 5:41
Alyncia: Yeah good idea
Dmullins677: That is only one part of it, but when it comes to Role-playing wiki's like these...
GoldenGail3: Good idea.
Liky Aly said. like* 5:41
Dmullins677: We have to consider users using other peoples templates, etch.
*etch. :| *etc. 5:42
Dmullins677: And that is included in Sock puppeting
GoldenGail3: We should make a meeting thing on the chat button...
Dmullins677: I agree.
And I am going to post this as a public wiki admin meeting 5:43
Dmullins677: Since we have accomplished a lot ;)
Dmullins677: But lets not stop now, what else do we have to discuss
GoldenGail3: Uh, destroying someone's user page?
Dmullins677: Aly, you are free to add the necessary rules to policies page.
GoldenGail3: is that one?
that could get someone banned.. 5:46
Dmullins677: That's simple vandalism
Which is already addressed on the policies. And it is easily fixed. 5:47
and yea it is. i don't think we have anything more to discuss... 5:47
Anything Aly? 5:49
GoldenGail3: I think Sev broke a rule...
Alyncia: sorry I was afk
GoldenGail3: Talking about a different user in PM, that's a rule and she broke it...
Dmullins677: That's s rule>
*? Onz/ 5:51
GoldenGail3: Or a policy...
GoldenGail3: I am going to be a nazi to you D...
GoldenGail3: I think we should give her a warning at least.
Dmullins677: I don't remember that being a rule on this chat?
Alyncia: ex post facto
GoldenGail3: or something on a policy...
it's something on a policy. 5:52
Alyncia: we won't blame her because it wasn't a rule before
but just pointing it out... 5:53
Alyncia: That's okay
Dmullins677: Is it a rule now?
GoldenGail3: yea, it is.
Dmullins677: When was that agreed upon?
GoldenGail3: I remember correctly yea.
Dmullins677: I thought I said I didn't agree with that one.
Alyncia: Oh well then
I don't care what happens its not my decision 5:56
Dmullins677: I just don't see any point in that one...
Alyncia: Just decide on something.
GoldenGail3: Gossiping in general,
Dmullins677: But I don't see a point in that either.
No Aly, I want your opinion. 5:59
Alyncia: Im kinda in the middle between agreeing and declining
Dmullins677: What are your comments about it"
Where do you agree and where do you disagree? 6:00
GoldenGail3: We could agree not to agree?
GoldenGail3: idk about it either.
Dmullins677: But it doesn't get the job done.
Alyncia: I can't really explain.
GoldenGail3: Are we done here?
Alyncia: Not sure
Dmullins677: Well you're OOC, do it is really your choice, Aly.
*So On the gossip ordeal. And yes, unless there is anything else to discuss, then we are done here, 6:08